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November 17, 2009
Future Shock
White Sox Top 11 Prospects
by Kevin Goldstein
Four-Star Prospects
1. Daniel Hudson, RHP
2. Jared Mitchell, OF
3. Tyler Flowers, C
Three-Star Prospects
4. Jordan Danks, CF
5. Dayan Viciedo, 3B
6. Brent Morel, 3B
7. Clevelan Santeliz, RHP
8. Trayce Thompson, OF
Two-Star Prospects
9. Santos Rodriguez, LHP
10. David Holmberg, LHP
11. C.J. Retherford, 2B
Four More:
12.
Jhonny Nunez, RHP: Nunez has a 93-95 mph fastball and a very good slider, both of which should fit in a big-league bullpen, though he falls short of being the late-inning type.
13. Josh Phegley, C: The 2009 draftee is the rare college catcher with power and patience, but there are way too many questions about his defensive prowess.
14.
John Ely, RHP: Ely has consistently gotten minor league hitters out, but on a pure scouting level, he has merely average stuff and command.
15. Nathan Jones, RHP: Standing 6-foot-5, he's projectable as all get out and dialed up heat clocked up to 97 mph this year; he'll also be 24 in January while having yet to get out of A-ball.
1. Daniel Hudson, RHP
DOB: 3/9/87
Height/Weight:6-4/220
Bats/Throws: R/R
Drafted/Signed:5th round, 2008, Old Dominion University
2009 Stats: 1.23 ERA (22.0-15-2-30) at Low-A (4 G); 3.40 ERA (45.0-31-13-49) at High-A (8 G); 1.60 ERA (56.1-37-10-63) at Double-A (9 G); 3.00 ERA (24.0-22-9-24) at Triple-A (5 G); 3.38 ERA (18.2-16-9-14) at MLB (6 G)
Last Year’s Ranking: Not Ranked
Year in Review: Though Hudson was initially a moderately obscure fifth-round pick, he was the breakout pitcher of the year in the minors, pitching for five teams, beginning the year at Low-A and finished it in the big leagues.
The Good: Hudson combines plus stuff with well above-average command. His 92-94 mph fastball can touch 96 and features good tailing action, and he throws strikes to both sides of the plate with it. His best secondary offering is a plus changeup that is a true swing-and-miss pitch, which lessens the concerns about his slingy, low three-quarters arm action.
The Bad: Hudson's slider flashed average, but it is inconsistent. He'll need to establish it more as a starter in the big leagues. He tends to work up in the zone and gives up fly balls. Despite the enormous leap forward, many scouts think he's maxed out projection-wise.
Ephemera: Hudson's 295 strikeouts rank second in Old Dominion history behind Tigers ace Justin Verlander, who punched out a remarkable 427 batters in his three years with the Monarchs.
Perfect World Projection: Even with Hudson's tremendous growth in 2009, some scouts don't see room for much more, seeing him as a good third starter at best. Others think he'd be even better as a late-inning reliever.
Path to the Big Leagues: If he's not fully big league-ready, Hudson is awfully close.
Timetable: Hudson's 2010 will be determined by the White Sox' offseason. He could begin the year in the big-league bullpen as the team's sixth starter, or he could get more refinement with some starts back at Triple-A.
2. Jared Mitchell, OF
DOB: 10/13/88
Height/Weight: 6-0/195
Bats/Throws: L/L
Drafted/Signed: 1st round, 2009, Louisiana State University
2009 Stats: .296/.417/.435 at Low-A (34 G)
Last Year’s Ranking: Not Ranked
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I must just be too high on Hudson. Even though I'm a Cubs fan, those k/9 in the minors are just real real good. The last handful of guys to top the minor leagues in that category have been special pitchers.
9.76 K/9 (including his stint in Chicago) is really good, but doesn't seem elite necessarily.
Elite is too strong for sure, but in no way should the ChiSox be running Sweaty Freddie out there over Hudson every fifth day... Even if Garcia has married into the Guillen family (iirc).
I suspect "the plan", is to start Hudson in AAA, to polish him up a little, until, or unless Garcia gets hurt/sucks. This should get him a bunch of regular starts, as opposed to Garcia getting relatively few, early in the season, with all the off days.
FYI, Rich Hill had a better K/9 rate in the minors before he was promoted for the first time.
Well, Hill was thought to be a good prospect and did well, albeit for a short period, in the bigs. That curve was sooo devastating. We all know what HIll's problems were, and if it weren't for that he would be special, imo.
I'm just saying that, though K/9 is a strong indicator, it is not a guarantee that a pitcher will be special. There are a lot of other pitchers besides Hill who had great k/9 rates and didn't find success in the majors.
If someone is special, they are also elite.
Knuckleballers are special but not necessarily elite. The words have two different definitions.