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May 15, 2014

What Scouts Are Saying

May 15, 2014

by Baseball Prospectus


Many of our authors make a habit of speaking to scouts and other talent evaluators in order to bring you the best baseball information available. Not all of the tidbits gleaned from those conversations make it into our articles, but we don't want them to go to waste. Instead, we'll be collecting them in a regular feature called "What Scouts Are Saying," which will be open to participation from the entire BP staff and include quotes about minor leaguers and major leaguers alike.

Major Leagues

Cardinals RHP Shelby Miller: “If you grade out his stuff it's pretty good, but when you watch him pitch you feel like there is something missing. Maybe it's immaturity or just that he hasn't figured it out yet, but right now you feel disappointed each time you watch him pitch.”




Cardinals RHP Trevor Rosenthal: "It's not as easy for him as it was last year. He still has the big fastball, but it's not as big as it was last year and he doesn't seem to trust his off-speed stuff. It wouldn't surprise me if he's back in a setup role when Jason Motte returns."



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MaineSkin

The only diff in Rosey from last year is his BB%. OppBA is .210 and his other skills are the same, so of he can get back the CTL, he'll be Rosenthal again. He only has one BS.

May 15, 2014 07:36 AM
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bob4k14

Disagree. Rosenthal may have hit 98 once or twice in Washington a few weeks ago, otherwise he has been sitting 95-96. It's the middle of May and there have been no 99's or 100's. He's one tick down in velocity from last year, and his command is not as good.
I really believe we will learn that he has an elbow problem this season.
On Miller, I agree with the scout. There's a lot to analyze with him. I'd say one thing: he needs a change-up he can believe in. I saw Gomez and Reynolds take him deep on fastballs. He tried to mix it up. He threw two change-ups that day, both at 85, letter high, and out of the strike zone. I don't know why it's so difficult for these guys to master a change of pace pitch.

May 15, 2014 08:29 AM
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BillJohnson

Rosenthal got it up to 99 today against the Cubs, and had several in the 97-98 range in a 1.2-inning save. His command still seemed a bit shaky. I share your concern that there's an incipient elbow problem, but I also wonder if Matheny may have just told him to dial it back a little, since he hasn't closed for an entire season before. This is the kind of thing where ground truth is difficult to come by if you're not in the clubhouse, although the anonymous scout's view seems to argue against that

May 15, 2014 14:04 PM
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bob4k14

I'm back to eat some crow. MLB At Bat had about 4 pitches at 99 and 2 at 98 this afternoon on Rosenthal. I'm still wondering about him.

May 15, 2014 16:12 PM
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mdthomp

It looks to me, that Rosenthal is not in as good of shape as he was last season. It could be something as simple as a conditioning issue?

May 15, 2014 17:46 PM
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fantasyking

I grade this article a 1-1.

May 15, 2014 18:58 PM
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