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April 21, 2014

What You Need to Know

Weekend Wrap-Up, 4/21

by Nick Bacarella, Morris Greenberg and Chris Mosch


In the past, Tyson Ross has been viewed as a player with the raw talent to be a successful big-league pitcher, but one unable to put his skills toward sustainable success at the big-league level.

However, after an excellent outing on Friday against the Giants, Ross looks like a very good big-league pitcher. He completed eight innings with nine strikeouts, four hits, one walk, and no runs. This comes directly after another strong showing against the Tigers, in which he threw seven innings with seven strikeouts, six hits, one walk, and one run. Obviously, a two-game sample does not define the greatness of a big-league pitcher, but it is certainly a promising start. On the season, he owns a 2.13 ERA, a 2.95 FIP, and 25 strikeouts. Considering that he had a very solid second half of last season as well (2.93 ERA, 85 K in 80 IP), he may be hitting his stride.

Although his mechanics have raised red flags in the past, Ross still seems to have a similar throwing motion, with an upright posture and secondary recoil:

A more likely reason for Ross’s change in success is his pitch mix. The 6-foot-6 righty has been using his slider much more effectively of late, specifically getting the Giants to chase pitches outside of the zone:

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John H.

What's the best way to look up career run support numbers? I know Darvish has had terrible run support the past two years and I'd be interested to see how his short MLB career stands up to others when it comes to getting hosed in the win column.

Apr 21, 2014 06:48 AM
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BP staff member Nick Bacarella
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Actually, Darvish was treated pretty well in 2012: among 80 or so qualified starters, he had the 10th highest mark at 5.14 runs per game (back when Hamilton was mashing, things were pretty good). He fell off quite a bit in 2013, but he still finished in the top half of pitchers listed. This year's been a totally different story, but Texas's offense has looked pretty good thus far, so some of that production should eventually carry over into Darvish's starts, too.

The link for average run support is below. ESPN doesn't track the stat over an individual pitcher's career, but Darvish has only been around a couple of years, so just flip between seasons to compare.

http://espn.go.com/mlb/stats/pitching/_/sort/runSupportPerStart/type/expanded-2

Apr 21, 2014 07:48 AM
 
PastorStephen

Gerrit Cole: "I didn't curse at him, I didn't try to provoke a fight."

You can clearly hear him drop the f-bomb in the video...

Apr 21, 2014 08:35 AM
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danrnelson

Is anyone else feeling "unwritten rule" fatigue?

I find it hilarious that according to the unwritte rules: sliding hard into second base, spikes up, to break up a double play is strongly encouraged (inflicting physical damage), but pimping a home run or trying to score more runs in a blowout is strongly discouraged (hurting feelings).

I guess spikes and slides may break the secondbaseman's bones, but words will definitely hurt me.

Apr 21, 2014 08:41 AM
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huztlers

Baseball is a man's game. That is pretty much what it comes down to. There is no room for whining about scrapes, cuts or even broken bones nor is there room for for dancing around or personal celebrations. MLB is not the NBA, although it may be someday.

Apr 21, 2014 11:24 AM
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therealn0d

A wise man once said, "Sticks and stones may break your bones but words cause permanent damage."

Apr 21, 2014 11:37 AM
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danrnelson

In this case, it's bat flips and bunting that cause permanent damage. I actually understand guys getting worked up over words. It's the other stuff that bothers me.

If I were a manager or pitching coach, I would have every one of my guys watch Jose Fernandez react to getting taken deep by Carlos Gonzalez this year (he pimped the hell out if it, too).

As for Bo Porter, he's just an idiot. This is Major League Baseball, not little league. There's no mercy rule. Guys get paid to produce, not to take it easy because it hurts your feelings to give up seven runs in one inning.

Apr 21, 2014 13:07 PM
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therealn0d

In all honesty, just to be up front (and I hate to keep using poker analogies), it's really about gloating. You've successfully inflicted pain upon me...congratulations, take your bases. Ever seen a crazy reaction when someone slow rolls a player in poker and gloats? It's comparable.

I remember the first time I caught a pitcher in a game and he got homered off of...guy stands there like he just painted the Mona Lisa. I was like "Is that your first one? Then fucking run asshole. We still have a game to play." You think I want to watch him stand there for however long he wants? Besides, the mound and the catcher's areas are highly territorial. It's a whole thing.

Apr 21, 2014 16:16 PM
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Noel Steere
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I can't believe we (collectively) are still having these arguments. Baseball is hard. If you do something really successful (hit a home run, get a big strikeout to end a scoring threat), why shouldn't you enjoy it, and why assume that it's in any way directed at you?

I had no problem with Eck pumping his fist twenty years ago.

I had no problem with Reggie admiring his handiwork *forty* years ago.

Someone hitting a home run while you're catching isn't even looking at you, so how does that even translate into "gloating"?

And I don't understand your final comment at all: The batter is in the batter's box; you have your own box, behind the plate. You should stay there.

Apr 22, 2014 00:10 AM
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digiderek

If Porter didn't want Lowrie to bunt, the Astros shouldn't have put on the shift. After all, what is Porter doing shifting fielders if the game is, according to his view, already over and done?

Apr 21, 2014 16:47 PM
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danrnelson

Couldn't agree more. I don't think Porter saw the irony.

Apr 22, 2014 08:28 AM
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