CSS Button No Image Css3Menu.com

Baseball Prospectus home
Click here to log in Click here for forgotten password Click here to subscribe

<< Previous Article
Rumor Roundup: Tuesday... (12/04)
<< Previous Column
Premium Article Out of Left Field: The... (11/27)
Next Column >>
Out of Left Field: Wha... (12/18)
Next Article >>
On the Beat: Rumblings... (12/04)

December 4, 2012

Out of Left Field

Josh Hamilton and Talking

by Matthew Kory

the archives are now free.

All Baseball Prospectus Premium and Fantasy articles more than a year old are now free as a thank you to the entire Internet for making our work possible.

Not a subscriber? Get exclusive content like this delivered hot to your inbox every weekday. Click here for more information on Baseball Prospectus subscriptions or use the buttons to the right to subscribe and get instant access to the best baseball content on the web.

Subscribe for $4.95 per month
Recurring subscription - cancel anytime.

a 33% savings over the monthly price!

Purchase a $39.95 gift subscription
a 33% savings over the monthly price!

Already a subscriber? Click here and use the blue login bar to log in.

Josh Hamilton is one of the big storylines of the offseason. Where will he end up? Will he sign with [team x]? Maybe! Maybe not! Possibly maybe not! That’s about the best we can say on the matter. Maybe someone knows, possibly, but probably not.

I just used the words “maybe” and “possibly” a total of six times. That sums things up. We know why. Hamilton’s is one of the oddest free agent cases in recent memory. A supremely talented yet supremely flawed player, he’s old but not that old, appears excellent defensively but he’s possibly poor at defense. Then there’s the near unprecedented (for free agent baseball players) matter of his personal problems. It adds up to a player who could end up just about anywhere.

Oh, and there’s the price. BP’s own John Perrotto reported Hamilton is seeking a seven-year, $175 million contract. That would be the ninth-biggest ever, slotting in between Mark Teixeira’s $180 million deal with the Yankees and C.C. Sabathia’s $161 million deal with the Padres. That number is going to limit the pool of suitors*.

*The whole idea of using dating terms to describe free agents and their prospective teams reached its zenith yesterday when the Orioles were described as being “in hard” on Adam LaRoche. Presumably that is better than being “in deep” on Adam LaRoche, which would possibly upset him and his wife and therefore inhibit a team’s ability to sign him. Also it’s gross.Though only slightly grosser than “in deep.” That’s gross too.

According to MLB Trade Rumors, eight teams have been connected to Josh Hamilton over the past month. All of them have been mentioned more than once. So let’s take a look at those and a few other possibilities and put some arbitrary-ish numbers on it, shall we? No? Well I’m doing it anyway.

The Eight

Texas Rangers
The Fit: Having spent the last four seasons in Texas, you’d have to say there is a good fit. Or maybe there isn’t a fit so much as two quantities who are well known to each other. The Rangers did let Hamilton head off into free agency, though that may have more to do with his exorbitant contract demands than with their desire to keep him in Texas.

The Unfit: The Rangers know Hamilton’s personal demons better than any team. So they are in better position than any team to assess how those demons might affect him over the course of his next contract. Which might make them, depending on the severity of those demons and Hamilton’s ability to control them, more likely to retain him or less likely to retain him.

The Odds: 5/2

Potential Conversation:

Rangers: We can offer you a three-year deal, Josh.

Hamilton’s Agent: Three years? Come on. Napoli just got three years and he hasn’t showered in this decade.

Boston Red Sox
The Fit: The Red Sox have money money money after unloading the bulk of their long-term contracts on the Dodgers. Boston also has right field open.

The Unfit: Is Boston really the best place for Hamilton? Also the Red Sox just spent an enormous amount of energy ridding themselves of long-term deals. It seems unlikely they’d want to jump back into the deep end of that pool hand-in-hand with the uncertainty that is Josh Hamilton.

The Odds: 5/1

Potential Conversation:

Agent: We’re a bit concerned about the fan environment here in Boston. Can you shed any light on that?

GM: [ducks brick coming in through window] I sure can!

Philadelphia Phillies
The Fit: The Phillies scored 684 runs last year. Their primary left fielder was Juan Pierre. That’s called a fit.

The Unfit: Philadelphia has $136 million committed to 11 players next season. They have four players making $20 million or more. That’s called not a fit.

The Odds: 20/1

Potential Conversation:

Agent: I can’t say Philadelphia is our first choice, Ruben.


Agent: …I appreciate that, but…


Agent: That’s great, Mr. Amaro but


Seattle Mariners
The Fit: The Mariners can’t score. Josh Hamilton can hit. Signing Hamilton would, in theory, help the Mariners score.

The Unfit: The Mariners might not be ready to win now, so Hamilton’s best years might be wasted on a last-place team. For $150 million I’m guessing Hamilton could overlook this. The Mariners might have more difficulty with that concept.

The Odds: 18/1

Potential Conversation:

Agent: I think Seattle might be a nice fit…

Hamilton: I don’t know. I’m afraid of ghosts.

Agent: Ghosts?

Hamilton: Yeah.

Agent: Chone Figgins is still alive.

Hamilton: Oh. Never mind.

Milwaukee Brewers
The Fit: The normal reasons. Hamilton’s bat would fit in nicely with those of Ryan Braun and Aramis Ramirez.

The Unfit: Milwaukee already has a starting outfield and it’s tough to see where Hamilton fits in. Maybe they could trade Norichika Aoki, but between the cost in treasure and the lack of a fit on the roster (Milwaukee can’t stash him at DH), this is a tough one to see.

The Odds: 50/1

Potential Conversation:

Hamilton: I’ve worked hard and overcome addiction. Now I finally get what’s coming to me. I’m moving to Milwaukee!

Baltimore Orioles
The Fit: For a team that just made it to the first (second?) round of the playoffs, the Orioles have what might charitably be called holes in their roster. Hamilton can’t pitch but he can hit, so that’s something.

The Unfit: From the Orioles perspective there isn’t really a reason other than length of contract and cost. From Hamilton’s perspective, there are a lot of reasons and each of them could be overcome by a giant contract offer.

The Odds: 17/1

Potential Conversation:

GM: We think you can be a big part of this great and historic organization, Josh. Also we hope to have a positive run differential sometime before August.

Atlanta Braves
The Fit: Did you know the Braves won 94 games last year? Oh. Right. I totally knew that too. After losing in the playoffs and losing Chipper Jones to retirement, there is a need for another big bat….

The Unfit: ...which the signing of B.J. Upton doesn’t really address but it might tap the notoriously frugal Braves out anyway.

The Odds: 50/1

Potential Conversation:

Hamilton: Hey Chipper, good to hear from you … yeah, I did hear about the Kennedy assassination. … Sure, I’d love to hear more about it. [puts phone on mute]

Washington Nationals
The Fit: Winners of 98 games last season, the Nationals are both good and young. But getting better never hurts. Also they are run by the very same GM who gave Jayson Werth $126 million. So you know.

The Unfit: With Denard Span, Bryce Harper and the previously mentioned Werth, there isn’t any room.

The Odds: 1,000/1

Potential Conversation:

Rizzo: So Josh, this should about do it. A 12 year contract for [picks up contract; reads] “whatever you want whenever you want it.” How’s that sound?

Hamilton: Good, but what about the unicorn?

Rizzo: Ha! I almost forgot

Unicorn: [unicorn noises]

Hamilton: [wakes up holding teddy bear] Aww…

Other Teams

New York Yankees
The Fit: Because you can’t count the Yankees out of the biggest free agent on the market ever. The Yankees have money because they always have money. They are probably going to lose right fielder Nick Swisher so there is a spot open.

The Unfit: The Yankees are supposedly on an austerity kick. Ha ha! How quaint.

The Odds: 100/1

Potential Conversation:

Hamilton: Hello?

Derek Jeter: Hi Josh. Just wanted to talk to you about the Yankees.

Hamilton: Oh hi, Derek. I got the gift basket, thanks. That was really gentlemanly of you.

Jeter: Gift basket? Oh. Gotta talk to the secretary about that.

The Part Where I Stop Writing

Next season PECOTA projects Hamilton will hit .291/.351/.524 with 28 home runs in 594 plate appearances for Texas (in other words, put him in San Diego and those numbers might shrink a bit). That is going to help some team a whole lot next season. Which team that is, I have no idea.

Matthew Kory is an author of Baseball Prospectus. 
Click here to see Matthew's other articles. You can contact Matthew by clicking here

Related Content:  Trade Rumors,  Josh Hamilton

12 comments have been left for this article. (Click to hide comments)

BP Comment Quick Links


Has anyone documented the Jeter gift basket phenomenon? Were they top-of-the-line, or random stuff from the nearest store? Were they customized to the recipients? Did he send them personally, or did he employ an Assistant of Basketry?

So many important questions.

Dec 04, 2012 06:55 AM
rating: 0
BP staff member Matt Kory
BP staff

They were gritty and scrappy and extra clutchy. Also they had nice little fruit cakes.

Dec 04, 2012 11:19 AM

C.C. Sabathia has a $161 million deal with the Padres? Who knew? And wouldn't that be, um, complicated?

Dec 04, 2012 07:02 AM
rating: 0
BP staff member Matt Kory
BP staff

Got ya with that one!

Dec 04, 2012 11:18 AM

CC and the Padres, that was a really good signing.

Dec 04, 2012 07:42 AM
rating: 1

Also, I'll take $10 on those 100/1 odds Hamilton goes to the Yankees. It all hinges on whether the Yankees decide to trade Granderson.

Dec 04, 2012 07:51 AM
rating: 0

Great stuff.

Dec 04, 2012 07:58 AM
rating: 2
BP staff member Matt Kory
BP staff


Dec 04, 2012 11:14 AM

Any thoughts about Hamilton going to the Giants?

Dec 04, 2012 12:37 PM
rating: 0
BP staff member Matt Kory
BP staff

Sure. It's not going to happen?

Dec 04, 2012 15:30 PM

I actually laughed out loud reading the Phillies discussion. Great piece.

Dec 04, 2012 13:45 PM
rating: 1
BP staff member Matt Kory
BP staff

Thanks, Tony!

Dec 04, 2012 15:29 PM
You must be a Premium subscriber to post a comment.
Not a subscriber? Sign up today!
<< Previous Article
Rumor Roundup: Tuesday... (12/04)
<< Previous Column
Premium Article Out of Left Field: The... (11/27)
Next Column >>
Out of Left Field: Wha... (12/18)
Next Article >>
On the Beat: Rumblings... (12/04)

Eyewitness Accounts: June 30, 2015
Fantasy Rounders: South Pause
Premium Article Some Projection Left: The Top J2 Prospects
Premium Article Pitching Backward: Chaz Roe and the Mechanic...
Premium Article What You Need to Know: June 30, 2015
BP Wrigleyville
Premium Article Baseball Therapy: Better Playing Through Che...

Premium Article Baseball ProGUESTus: Anatomy of a Trade: The...
Premium Article Prospect Push: On the Brink of Elite
Scouting the Draft: College Infielders
Premium Article Western Front: Thou Shalt Not Run on Johnny ...
Premium Article Transaction Analysis: Boston, Napoli Married
Premium Article Transaction Analysis: Rangers Ink Soria
Premium Article Transaction Analysis: Pagan But Not Forgotte...

2013-01-09 - Premium Article Out of Left Field: Jumping the Gun on 2013 P...
2012-12-18 - Out of Left Field: What the Internet Can Tea...
2012-12-07 - Premium Article Transaction Analysis: Red Sox Get Koji
2012-12-04 - Premium Article Out of Left Field: Josh Hamilton and Talking...
2012-11-27 - Premium Article Out of Left Field: The Least Valuable Player
2012-11-20 - Premium Article Out of Left Field: Fish Out Of Contention
2012-11-13 - Premium Article Out of Left Field: What $205 Million Buys on...

2013-01-15 - Out of Left Field: Giving Miami the Silent T...
2013-01-09 - Premium Article Out of Left Field: Jumping the Gun on 2013 P...
2012-12-18 - Out of Left Field: What the Internet Can Tea...
2012-12-04 - Premium Article Out of Left Field: Josh Hamilton and Talking...
2012-11-27 - Premium Article Out of Left Field: The Least Valuable Player
2012-11-20 - Premium Article Out of Left Field: Fish Out Of Contention
2012-11-13 - Premium Article Out of Left Field: What $205 Million Buys on...