Nearly two months ago to the day, I wrote an article about Max Scherzer’s rather unique season. At that point, he was striking out 11.0 per nine innings and had a strikeout-to-walk ratio of 3.6. Despite that, his 4.84 ERA and mere eight wins were driving fantasy owners crazy.
Since that time, Scherzer has been a fantasy marvel, winning eight of 11 decisions with a 2.30 ERA while continuing his historic pace. In 74 1/3 innings, he has permitted just 57 hits while striking out 95. His rate stats during the run are as follows:
Scherzer’s overall run of success still places him among very elite company when looking back at the history of dominant seasons. Only four pitchers have ever completed a season with a K/9 of at least 11.0 and a walk rate below 3.0 while qualifying for the ERA title, as the table below illustrates:
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There you go again.
Scherzer has posted good stats for the last 74.1 innings, as you point out. However, his first 100+ innings ths season count, too. Even a little bit more.
It would have been entirely appropriate to point out Scerzer's progress, and his nice season overall, without having to drop a Cy Young bomb to try and justify the point. Some writers just can't seem to resist the urge to go completely over the top.
I could not help but recall our rather lengthy conversation last year when you trotted out a plethora of names to try and push your favored 2011 Cy Young candidate, "ABV." Anybody But Verlander.
The point of this article was not to say Scherzer was deserving of the Cy Young award; I do not feel he is. the very sentence after the mention of Cy Young says as much
"Scherzer’s season is unique but not exactly award-worthy; the high ERA will be impossible for mainstream voters to overlook"
The point of the article was to show how he was performing down the stretch while the actual Cy Young candidates garnered all of the attention as Scherzer actually delivered better results making fantasy owners rather happy. The conclusion of this article says as much.
Last year's discussion centered around me just mentioning that Sabathia should be at least involved in the Cy Young discussion where his numbers stood on the date of the article, not that he had a stronger case than Verlander. As I stated last year, "I'm cool with either guy winning it but I'm not cool with it not being up for discussion and that's how I see it playing out right now with those that have the votes."
Discussion is a great thing - and it can be done without continually calling my credibility into question.
It also seems fair to point out Sabathia ended 2011 with a higher PVORP and FIP than Verlander last season.
This season, I think it is a 2-man race between JV and Price at this point. Me, as the Rays fan, would be voting for Verlander if I had a ballot but am enjoying the fact the discussion has already been quite strong on the national level and people are looking at WAR, quality of opponent (SPR system by Gennaro favors JV while OppOPS here favors Price), etc. Another step away from the traditional metrics and narratives that have driven these votes in the past.
He's actually been good for his last 152.3 IP (since the beginning of May) with a 3.13 ERA, 1.14 WHIP and 193 K, so it's not like all he has is the 74.3 IP sample. It isn't ludicrous to discuss him as a down-ballot candidate, though. Not one bit.
I don't understand the vitriol behind your post (and many others you've directed at Jason). You seem only to have an axe to grind as opposed to any desire for moving the discourse along in a constructive fashion.
Jason, I'm not surprised at the run Scherzer has been on since your last piece on him. That's the article where I commented on how happy I was watching him pitch, because for the first time in 5 years, I didn't draft him in fantasy baseball, so of course he's been pitching lights out! ;)
Sucks when things happen that way! I missed Edwin Jackson's breakout season in 2009 because I was tired of drafting his upside and watching him blow up my ratios every season. Oops
Would you be looking to trade for him in formats where you could keep him for the next few years, or do you think the price would be too high now? How much would you be willing to pay for him at auction next year (say for a 14 team mixed league)?
After your previous article on Scherzer, I acquired him for the low, low price of Jonathan Broxton. Many of my fellow managers thought I got the short end of the deal at the time, but it's worked out better than I could have ever expected.
There you go again.
Scherzer has posted good stats for the last 74.1 innings, as you point out. However, his first 100+ innings ths season count, too. Even a little bit more.
It would have been entirely appropriate to point out Scerzer's progress, and his nice season overall, without having to drop a Cy Young bomb to try and justify the point. Some writers just can't seem to resist the urge to go completely over the top.
I could not help but recall our rather lengthy conversation last year when you trotted out a plethora of names to try and push your favored 2011 Cy Young candidate, "ABV." Anybody But Verlander.
The point of this article was not to say Scherzer was deserving of the Cy Young award; I do not feel he is. the very sentence after the mention of Cy Young says as much
"Scherzer’s season is unique but not exactly award-worthy; the high ERA will be impossible for mainstream voters to overlook"
The point of the article was to show how he was performing down the stretch while the actual Cy Young candidates garnered all of the attention as Scherzer actually delivered better results making fantasy owners rather happy. The conclusion of this article says as much.
Last year's discussion centered around me just mentioning that Sabathia should be at least involved in the Cy Young discussion where his numbers stood on the date of the article, not that he had a stronger case than Verlander. As I stated last year, "I'm cool with either guy winning it but I'm not cool with it not being up for discussion and that's how I see it playing out right now with those that have the votes."
Discussion is a great thing - and it can be done without continually calling my credibility into question.
It also seems fair to point out Sabathia ended 2011 with a higher PVORP and FIP than Verlander last season.
This season, I think it is a 2-man race between JV and Price at this point. Me, as the Rays fan, would be voting for Verlander if I had a ballot but am enjoying the fact the discussion has already been quite strong on the national level and people are looking at WAR, quality of opponent (SPR system by Gennaro favors JV while OppOPS here favors Price), etc. Another step away from the traditional metrics and narratives that have driven these votes in the past.
He's actually been good for his last 152.3 IP (since the beginning of May) with a 3.13 ERA, 1.14 WHIP and 193 K, so it's not like all he has is the 74.3 IP sample. It isn't ludicrous to discuss him as a down-ballot candidate, though. Not one bit.
I don't understand the vitriol behind your post (and many others you've directed at Jason). You seem only to have an axe to grind as opposed to any desire for moving the discourse along in a constructive fashion.
So I ask, what is your desired end game w/J?