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January 21, 2011

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St. Louis Cardinals Top 11 Prospects

by Kevin Goldstein

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 Previous Rankings: 2010 | 2009 | 2008

System in 20 Words or Less: From the outside, this system looks like Shelby Miller and the rest, but it's a bit better than that.

Five-Star Prospects
1. Shelby Miller, RHP
Three-Star Prospects
2. Tyrell Jenkins, RHP
3. Carlos Martinez, RHP
4. Zack Cox, 3B
5. Lance Lynn, RHP
6. Eduardo Sanchez, RHP
7. Oscar Taveras, OF
8. Matt Carpenter, 3B
9. Seth Blair, RHP
Two-Star Prospects
10. Adron Chambers, OF
11. Jordan Swagerty, RHP

Nine More:
12. Daniel Descalso, 2B: There's nothing sexy about Descalso, but there's also no reason he can't be a second-division starter.
13. Maikel Cleto, RHP: A raw arm acquired in the Brendan Ryan trade, Cleto's armed with huge velocity but little else.
14. Joe Kelly, RHP: Kelly throws hard, but scouts project him as a reliever, and his secondary stuff is lacking.
15. Allen Craig, 1B/OF/3B?: Craig has consistently posted good stats in the minors, but with no defensive skills, he might be a Quad-A type.
16. Tony Cruz, C: An unheralded catcher, Cruz has gap power and a plus-plus arm.
17. Nick Longmire, OF: A fifth-round pick who showed all-around tools in his pro debut, Longmire could move up next year.
18. Tommy Pham, OF: Pham is an ultra-toolsy player who showed some real progress in 2010.
19. Adam Reifer, RHP: This power reliever throws hard and throws strikes, but he needs a second pitch.
20. Scott Gorgen, RHP: The opposite of Reifer, Gorgen mixes pitches extremely well but has a middle-relief ceiling.

1. Shelby Miller, RHP
DOB
: 10/10/90
Height/Weight: 6-3/195
Bats/Throws: R/R
Drafted/Signed: First round, 2009, Brownwood HS (TX)
2010 Stats: 3.62 ERA (104.1-97-33-140) at Low-A (24 G)
Best/Worst Tool: Fastball/changeup

Year in Review: The Cardinals' first-round pick in 2009 gained consistency as the season wore on, and was the Midwest League's top arm by the end of the year.
The Good: Miller has the potential to be an upper-tier starter with dominant stuff. His fastball is already there, sitting at 93-95 mph and touching 97, and he already flashes plenty of plus curveballs in every outing. He has an ideal power pitcher's build, as well as an ideal power-pitcher makeup, with a nearly robotic approach to pitching.
The Bad: Miller has occasional command issues, and when he misses, he misses up in the zone. He gets tighter spin on his curve when he throws it as a true power pitch, but he takes something off it too often. His changeup is still below average, but he does show a feel for it.
Ephemera: Miller had a bizarre home/road split in 2010, with a 6.47 ERA at home (despite striking out 60 in 40 1/3 innings), but a 1.83 mark on the road.
Perfect World Projection: He could be a star-level starting pitcher.
Fantasy Impact: The ERA, WHIP, and strikeouts should all be of high quality.
Path to the Big Leagues: Miller will likely begin 2011 at High-A Palm Beach, but with his second-half surge, he's an excellent breakout candidate who could accelerate his development path.
ETA: 2012

2. Tyrell Jenkins, RHP
DOB
: 7/20/92
Height/Weight: 6-4/180
Bats/Throws: R/R
Drafted/Signed: Supplemental first round, 2010, Henderson HS (TX)
2010 Stats: 0.00 ERA (3.0-2-2-2) at Rookie (2 G)
Best/Worst Tool: Fastball/changeup

Year in Review: Jenkins was among the best athletes available in the draft, so the Cardinals spent $1.3 million on the 50th overall pick to buy Jenkins away from playing quarterback at Baylor.
The Good: The term 'projectable' was practically invented for Jenkins. While baseball has never been his focus, he has a clean delivery and electric arm action, already sitting in the 91-94 mph range with his fastball and touching 96. He throws both a curve and a slider, but the curve has more potential as a plus power breaker and will likely be his focus as a pro. He's ultra athletic and takes well to instruction.
The Bad: Jenkins is still raw, and his development will require patience. He is inconsistent with his breaking balls and needs to learn a changeup. More than anything, he needs innings and repetition.
Ephemera: Located in a small East Texas town, Henderson High School has produced just four major-league draft picks. It is better known for its football program, which produced Jets cornerback Drew Coleman and former tight end Rickey Dudley.
Perfect World Projection: Jenkins' ceiling is through the roof, but he's definitely in the high-upside/high-risk category.
Fantasy Impact: He could be many good things at this point, or nothing.
Path to the Big Leagues: Jenkins will likely begin 2011 in extended spring training, then move to a short-season team in June.
ETA: 2015

3. Carlos Martinez, RHP
DOB
: 9/21/91
Height/Weight: 6-0/165
Bats/Throws: R/R
Drafted/Signed: 2010, Dominican Republic
2010 Stats: 0.76 ERA (59.0-28-14-78) in Dominican Summer League (12 G)
Best/Worst Tool: Fastball/changeup

Year in Review: This teenager sizzled in the Dominican while waiting for the paperwork on his $1.5 million deal to finalize.
The Good: No talent in the Dominican Republic generated anywhere close to the buzz that Martinez did in 2010. Despite his smaller stature, he has a blindingly fast arm that delivers a heater that sits in the mid-90s and occasionally touches 98-99. He gets good break on a low-80s curveball, and at least has an idea on the grip and release of a changeup. Despite a delivery with considerable effort, he repeats his release point well and throws plenty of strikes.
The Bad: Martinez is still rough around the edges in terms of his secondary offerings, as he can overthrow all of his pitches and lose movement. His combination of size and mechanics leave scouts wondering if he's capable of handling a starter's workload.
Ephemera: In his last five starts for the DSL Cardinals, Martinez delivered 23 innings without allowing an earned run, gave up just 12 hits, and struck out 36.
Perfect World Projection: Martinez's ceiling matches that of any pitcher in the system.
Fantasy Impact: Can we get him in the United States first?
Path to the Big Leagues: Martinez will likely make a full-season debut at Low-A Quad Cities.
ETA: 2014

4. Zack Cox, 3B
DOB
: 5/9/89
Height/Weight: 6-0/215
Bats/Throws: L/R
Drafted/Signed: First round, 2010, University of Arkansas
2010 Stats: .400/.471/.467 at Rookie (4 G)
Best/Worst Tool: Bat/speed

Year in Review: Among the top pure hitters in the country, Cox dropped towards the end of the first round because of his anticipated bonus demands; he fulfilled those concerns when he signed a big-league deal for more than $3 million.
The Good: Cox is a talented hitter. He has a big league-ready approach, good bat speed, fantastic hands, and projects to produce both a high batting average and high on-base percentage. In the field, he has solid defensive fundamentals and a plus arm.
The Bad: Beyond his hitting ability, Cox's tools fail to impress. He's a slow, bad-bodied player with below-average range. While he has played some second base in the past, he doesn't have the athleticism to play up the middle in the big leagues. There are plenty of debates about his power ceiling, because while there's strength to his swing, he has a line-drive stroke and uses the opposite field far more than he drives balls.
Ephemera: Cox was a 15th round pick by the Dodgers in 2008 out of Pleasure Ridge High School in Kentucky, where he also went 38-3 with a 1.05 ERA on the mound.
Perfect World Projection: A solid everyday third baseman.
Fantasy Impact: Good average and good on-base (if your league uses that), but that's it.
Path to the Big Leagues: Cox is advanced offensively and could begin the year as high as High-A in the Florida State League.
ETA: 2013

5. Lance Lynn, RHP
DOB
: 5/12/87
Height/Weight: 6-6/250
Bats/Throws: R/R
Drafted/Signed: Supplemental first round, 2008, University of Mississippi
2010 Stats: 4.77 ERA (164.0-164-62-141) at Triple-A (29 G)
Best/Worst Tool: Fastball/command

Year in Review: Lynn was once a finesse arm, but that was before he transformed into a power pitcher and had some especially dominating starts late in the season.
The Good: Once a huge man with average velocity, Lynn scrapped his two-seam fastball for a pure four-seam heater. He suddenly started delivering 92-95 mph velocity and touched 97. He has two solid/average secondary pitches in his curveball and changeup, and he's physically designed to eat up innings.
The Bad: After giving up five home runs in 2009, Lynn surrendered 21 last year as he missed up on his fastball far too frequently. Despite the jump in velocity, he lacks that plus second pitch to give him more than mid-rotation potential.
Ephemera: Lynn is not going to help the Cardinals at the plate, because in his minor-league career he has gone 1-for-46 with 32 strikeouts at the plate.
Perfect World Projection: He could be a solid third starter.
Fantasy Impact: He'll bring innings and strikeouts, with an ERA that won't kill you.
Path to the Big Leagues: With no obvious opening in the big leagues, Lynn will likely head back to Triple-A and wait for his opportunity.
ETA: 2011

6. Eduardo Sanchez, RHP
DOB
: 2/16/89
Height/Weight: R/R
Bats/Throws: 5-11/155
Drafted/Signed: 2005, Venezuela
2010 Stats: 3.12 ERA (26.0-22-8-27) at Double-A (24 G); 1.67 ERA (27.0-19-12-31) at Triple-A (26 G)
Best/Worst Tool: Fastball/control

Year in Review: A power reliever, Sanchez put himself on the brink of the big leagues with success at both upper-level affiliates.
The Good: Sanchez shocked scouts by cranking 94-98 mph heat out of a build more reminiscent of the bat boy's than a power pitcher's. He'll flash a plus slider with good two-plane break, and he wants the ball in pressure situations.
The Bad: Sanchez is borderline tiny, and his delivery a touch violent, which leads to on-and-off control issues. He needs to improve his location or find another pitch to make him more effective against left-handed hitters.
Ephemera: Right-handed hitters facing Sanchez in 2010 went 17-for-108 (.157) with 41 strikeouts.
Perfect World Projection: He could be a late-inning reliever.
Fantasy Impact: His stuff is good enough to pick up saves in the big leagues.
Path to the Big Leagues: Sanchez will compete for a job in spring training, and will be in the big leagues at some point during the season.
ETA: 2011

7. Oscar Taveras, OF
DOB: 6/19/92
Height/Weight: 6-2/180
Bats/Throws: L/L
Drafted/Signed: 2008, Dominican Republic
2010 Stats: .167/.194/.200 at Rookie Gulf Coast (7 G); .322/.362/.526 at Rookie Appalachian (53 G)
Best/Worst Tool: Bat/speed

Year in Review: Taveras is a little-known player who signed for $145,000, and then had a stunning US debut.
The Good: Taveras is an instinctual hitter who generates hard contact to all fields with a quick swing that incorporates plenty of strength from his core. He projects for average to plus power as his game and body matures. He's a solid defensive outfielder with an average arm.
The Bad: He's just short of being an average runner now, and will likely slow down as he gets older. He needs to develop a more patient approach, and left-handers with breaking balls can make him look foolish.
Ephemera: Despite splitting time nearly equally at the two positions in 2010, Taveras hit .277/.282/.373 as a left fielder, but a much healthier .374/.429/.667 when playing center.
Perfect World Projection: He could be an average to above-average corner outfielder.
Fantasy Impact: It's not huge, but he'll have some average and power.
Path to the Big Leagues: Taveras is ready for a full-season assignment and will begin the year at Low-A Quad Cities.
ETA: 2015

8. Matt Carpenter, 3B
DOB
: 11/26/85
Height/Weight: 6-3/200
Bats/Throws: L/R
Drafted/Signed: 13th round, 2009, Texas Christian University
2010 Stats: .283/.441/.404 at High-A (28 G); .316/.412/.487 at Double-A (105 G)
Best/Worst Tool: Bat/speed

Year in Review: An unheralded 13th-round pick, he just kept hitting, and even more so after moving up to Double-A.
The Good: While he'll never impress on a tools level, Carpenter is a very tough out. He doesn't swing at bad pitches and sprays strikes to all fields while occasionally showing gap power. He has a tremendous makeup and brings an infectious max-effort style of play to the field.
The Bad: Carpenter is a below-average third baseman with poor footwork, and his arm is merely average. He's a slow runner, and it's unlikely he'll develop the kind of power normally associated with his position.
Ephemera: Texas Christian is known much more for their pitching than hitting of late; Jeff Newman (1970) and Freddy Benavides (1987) remain the only players drafted out of the school to hit homers in the big leagues.
Perfect World Projection: He could be an everyday third baseman whose value comes from the ability to get on base and hit doubles.
Fantasy Impact: He'll have batting average only, but even more value for leagues with on-base percentage.
Path to the Big Leagues: Carpenter needs to keep proving himself, and he'll begin the year at either Double- or Triple-A.
ETA: 2012

9. Seth Blair, RHP
DOB
: 3/3/89
Height/Weight: 6-2/185
Bats/Throws: R/R
Drafted/Signed: Supplemental first round, 2010, Arizona State University
2010 Stats: Did not play
Best/Worst Tool: Fastball/changeup

Year in Review: The Friday starter for one of the top teams in the country, Blair pitched his way to becoming a day-one pick.
The Good: Blair's fastball is what earned him a bonus of just over $750,000, as it's a 91-95 mph plus pitch with late, heavy movement. He'll flash a solid 12-to-6 curveball, and has above-average control of both pitches.
The Bad: Blair's changeup is below average and needs to be tightened up. He's not big or physical, so there's not much projection in him. He'll throw his breaking ball for strikes, but needs to learn how to use it as a chase pitch out of the zone.
Ephemera: According to the Arizona State media guide, Blair's favorite television show is Dancing With the Stars. Should that lead to makeup questions?
Perfect World Projection: He could be a third or fourth starter.
Fantasy Impact: It's nothing special.
Path to the Big Leagues: Because he signed too late to make his pro debut, the Cardinals will likely take it a bit slowly with Blair, and start his career at Low-A Quad Cities.
ETA: 2013

10. Adron Chambers, OF
DOB
: 10/8/86
Height/Weight: L/L
Bats/Throws: 5-10/185
Drafted/Signed: 38th round, 2007, Pensacola Junior College
2010 Stats: .282/.376/.417 at Double-A (75 G); .290/.390/.362 at Triple-A (37 G)
Best/Worst Tool: Speed/arm

Year in Review: This toolsy outfielder continued to improve his all-around game at the upper levels of the system.
The Good: Chambers is an impressive athlete with top-of-the-order speed that grades out at 60-65 on the scouting scale. He has developed a patient approach at the plate and honed his swing with a much smoother style with gap power. He now looks much more like a baseball player than a football player getting by in the game solely on his tools.
The Bad: Chambers is still raw on the basepaths, as in he's still learning how to steal bases. His outfield play needs work, and his arm is a below-average tool. He will never be a power hitter.
Ephemera: No player who signed as the 1153rd overall pick in the draft has reached the big leagues.
Perfect World Projection: He could be a second-division starter or good fourth outfielder.
Fantasy Impact: He will be one of those types who doesn't hurt in any category, but doesn't especially help, either.
Path to the Big Leagues: Chambers is ticketed for Triple-A Memphis in 2011, but he will be one of the first to get a call should injuries create a need at the big-league level.
ETA: 2011

11. Jordan Swagerty, RHP
DOB
: 7/14/89
Height/Weight: 6-2/175
Bats/Throws: B/R
Drafted/Signed: Second round, 2010, Arizona State University
2010 Stats: Did not play
Best/Worst Tool: Fastball/changeup

Year in Review: Cardinals scouts checking out Blair got plenty of exposure to Swagerty, who was busily thriving as the Sun Devils' closer.
The Good: Swagerty brings a pair of plus pitches to late-inning situations. He has very good command and control of a 92-93 mph fastball, but it's mostly a set-up pitch for a true plus power curveball with strong spin and considerable break. He'll occasionally mix in a splitter with changeup-like action to keep lefties off balance.
The Bad: It's hard to find many knocks against Swagerty; it's more of the case that he doesn't generate considerable excitement among scouts. He has a relief profile, but for many, his ceiling ends in the eighth inning.
Ephemera: Unlike Lynn, Swagerty could have some value at the plate, though opportunities will rarely present themselves as a reliever. He played catcher and first base at times at Arizona State, and finished his college career with averages of .273/.333/.455.
Perfect World Projection: He would be a set-up man, but there's some thought as to seeing if he can start.
Fantasy Impact: He's likely a reliever, but save opportunities are not a guaranteed part of his future.
Path to the Big Leagues: Depending on his role, Swagerty will begin the year at one of the A-level affiliates, but after holding his own in a brief Arizona Fall League stint, he won't take long to make it up as a reliever.
ETA: Assuming a relief role, late 2012.

The Sleeper: Shortstop Ryan Jackson surprised many with the bat in 2010, and if he can repeat those types of numbers at Double-A, he'll become a notable shortstop prospect, as he's already a plus defender.

Top 10 Talents 25 And Under (born 4/1/85 or later)
1. Colby Rasmus, CF
2. Shelby Miller, RHP
3. Jaime Garcia, LHP
4. Tyrell Jenkins, RHP
5. Carlos Martinez, RHP
6. Zack Cox, 3B
7. Lance Lynn, RHP
8. Eduardo Sanchez, RHP
9. Oscar Taveras, OF
10. Matt Carpenter, 3B

The Cardinals don't have a young team, but at least the two prospects they already have up for this list are mighty good. Despite some interpersonal struggles with manager Tony La Russa, Rasmus made huge strides in 2010, and his .276/.361/.498 line is still far from his eventual prime production. As great as Garcia was in 2010, expecting another sub-three ERA would be a mistake (PECOTA thinks it will go up significantly), and he's still not proven for a full year's workload.

Summary: This was a pleasantly surprising list to do. It's still not a good system, but I went into the rankings expecting Shelby Miller and not much else, and found plenty of talent that can at least potentially turn the system around.

Kevin Goldstein is an author of Baseball Prospectus. 
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BillJohnson

Interesting that Fernando Salas doesn't make the top-10 U25 list, despite having been quite a decent reliever in his rookie year. He still qualifies. Also, the absence of Peter Kozma and Bryan Anderson from the top 20 catches the eye. Kozma I can understand -- even though he's young, there are reasons to doubt that he'll ever have a major-league bat -- but if Anderson doesn't make the top 20, this must be a pretty deep system.

Jan 21, 2011 06:18 AM
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BP staff member Kevin Goldstein
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Anderson was one of the last cuts -- just not a lot of support for him as a potential backup or 4a catcher.

Jan 21, 2011 08:58 AM
 
Mtn Jam

Aren't there a lot of mixed reviews on Cox? I thought you talked to a few scouts who were amazed he received a MLB contract.

Jan 21, 2011 06:32 AM
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Dan

A million bucks a star is pretty damning for a college guy.

Jan 21, 2011 07:45 AM
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BP staff member Kevin Goldstein
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Saying someone doesn't deserve a MLB contract isn't the same as saying a guy isn't good. I would hope what I wrote above is a mixed review.

Jan 21, 2011 08:59 AM
 
Scott44

KG - As a guy who watches a lot of MWL games (shout out to Kane County), how impressive was Miller versus other top righthanders you've seen come through there in the past 5 years or so? Anyone that you'd liken him to body/mechanics wise?

Jan 21, 2011 08:06 AM
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jonwakelin

Kevin - are you at all concerned about Eduardo Sanchez's numbers in Venezuela this winter (10.2 IP, 10+ERA)? Can anything meaningful be derived from such a small sample?

Jan 21, 2011 08:07 AM
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BP staff member Kevin Goldstein
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I can't get too worked up about 10.2 innings at the end of the year.

Jan 21, 2011 08:56 AM
 
dianagram

Kevin .... given your recent podcast discussion with the Professor on "ideal height/weight/body type", I look at Miller's 6'3", 195 at age 20 and wonder "how much more physical growth will he have ... 15 pounds, 25 pounds ... and what will that do to his strength, delivery, velocity".

I know you project prospect's build/frame and include that in the determination of rankings/ceiling, so what is your feeling about Miller's "adult" frame?

Jan 21, 2011 09:28 AM
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BP staff member Kevin Goldstein
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When I wrote I full scouting report on Miller:

http://www.baseballprospectus.com/article.php?articleid=11960

I said Matt Cain, physically.

Jan 21, 2011 09:48 AM
 
dianagram

ah yes .... the report format everyone (including me) drooled over .... how quickly I forgot ... sorry

Jan 21, 2011 10:04 AM
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Drew Miller

WOW. I didn't see this before, but I absolutely love it.

Jan 21, 2011 15:14 PM
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BillJohnson

Another interesting thing about this list is that there are five guys (Kozma, Adam Ottavino, Daryl Jones, Mark Hamilton, Robert Stock) who were on the top-15 list last year, retain rookie eligibility, and are still in the Cardinals system, but don't make the top 20 this time around. Even more (Carpenter, Cruz, Pham, Kelly, Reifer, Gorgen) were in the system before the 2010 list was published, but didn't make it. That's a lot of turnover. (Isn't it? Or has there been that much on other teams' lists that I haven't noticed?)

Jan 21, 2011 12:06 PM
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Cardinals645

Part of the reason I wanted to have links and such available on these lists is so that these things would not go unnoticed and Kevin can explain to us some of the changes.

For example, why did Mark Hamilton drop off the list? He played a full season at AAA for the first time and OPS'd .974. Obviously, with age and defense and all, he's not a top prospect, but his prospect status can't have dropped off that much from last year.

Jan 21, 2011 12:36 PM
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Cardinals645

Maybe it's just a matter of everyone else taking a step forward and the system getting deeper, but I think having it explained would be instructional.

Jan 21, 2011 12:37 PM
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BP staff member Kevin Goldstein
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Lots of factors. Draft and international signings bring in new blood, for third straight year, Hamilton can't stay healthy, and an attempt to see if he could play left didn't work. He's now 26, and looking more like a 4A guy.

Jan 21, 2011 21:44 PM
 
BP staff member Kevin Goldstein
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Jones and Hamilton just missed, but Stock was really bad this year. Saw him many times, and really rough at the plate.

Jan 21, 2011 21:45 PM
 
BillJohnson

In case I was unclear, I don't think there's anything inexplicable about this turnover. For all five of the guys who were replaced in the top 20, there are clear reasons why. (Kozma's bat just isn't developing, and Ottavino has a huge health question mark, to cover the other two.) It's just the magnitude of the turnover that got my attention.

I guess my real question is: is this notable? Do all farm systems see this kind of turnover? Or is what we're seeing here the mark of a system that's unusually deep in two-star prospects?

Jan 22, 2011 07:02 AM
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oPlaiD

Lance Lynn sitting 92-95 and hitting 97? Really? Where did that information come from, and what's the sample size?

I've never heard of him hitting above 89-92 or so.

Jan 21, 2011 12:41 PM
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BP staff member Kevin Goldstein
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He switched from that sinker to a pure 4-seam and that's where it came from. Those are a scout contact readings in late-season outings.

Jan 21, 2011 21:46 PM
 
oPlaiD

So that could explain the bump in strikeouts and changes in his other peripherals later in the year. Interesting.

Jan 22, 2011 12:24 PM
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mwashuc06

Does Jenkins have more upside than Miller if everything comes together?

Jan 21, 2011 14:29 PM
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BP staff member Kevin Goldstein
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Not sure I'd go that far, but he sure offers plenty to dream on.

Jan 21, 2011 21:46 PM
 
rosborne
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How high does PECOTA project Jaime Garcia's ERA for this year? Is there a timetable when the PECOTA's will be released?

Jan 21, 2011 18:35 PM
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R.A.Wagman

KG - while I haven;t seen him play, your review on Cox seems to be criticizing him for what he is not more than lauding what he is. Is there any truth to that, or am I being too critical in my reading?

Jan 21, 2011 21:49 PM
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BP staff member Kevin Goldstein
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Might be fair. I know I have him lower than most, so I want to be clear as to why.

Jan 22, 2011 09:14 AM
 
khaulotte

Kevin - Great article. As a Cards fan it is hard to keep my bias level down, but I think your report on Reifer being a one pitch pitcher is an oversight. Even looking back to your '08 report you have a "devastating slider" included in his repotoire. I don't think that has changed in looking at other reports.

As always, thanks for your great work.

Jan 22, 2011 10:19 AM
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BillJohnson

One more question, Kevin, if you don't mind: You had nice things to say about rookie-leaguers Cody Stanley (catcher) and John Gast (pitcher) during the season, but they don't show up here. How far down the list are they? Just another case of not enough room to mention guys who are still in the low minors? Thanks.

Jan 22, 2011 19:42 PM
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pobothecat

And a more general question: the Cardinals have a reputation as one of the "smart" organizations. But the present state/recent history of their farm system belies this. Just bad luck or do you see something more systemic at work in St. Louis?

Jan 24, 2011 11:07 AM
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Degerman

Greetings Kevin,
Love the podcast. I have yet to list to 35.0, so perhaps you and Professor Parks addressed this with it, but was Carlos Martinez named someone else up until his signing?
I've read several references published in June of a "Carlos Matias" that would seem to match the signing bonus and heritage of Carlos Martinez.
Sincerely,
Eric
Richland, Wash.

Jan 27, 2011 22:02 PM
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BillJohnson

I'm not Kevin, but Carlos Martinez is indeed the former Carlos Matias. More accurately, Carlos Matias was the once and future Carlos Martinez. The story that appeared on the Cardinals boards (Future Redbirds is quite good) is that he was born Carlos Martinez, took the surname of an uncle as he was growing up, and had to revert to the birth name to get the work visa to get into the United States. I don't recall all the details and may have the relationship wrong, but yes, it's the same person.

Jan 28, 2011 12:15 PM
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Degerman

Thanks for the informed and well-written clarification.

Jan 28, 2011 21:52 PM
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Greg Ioannou

The Jays would probably willingly part with the likes of Jesse Litsch and JoJo Reyes, but do the Cards have enticing enough prospects to swing a deal?

Feb 23, 2011 13:37 PM
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Greg Ioannou

Argh -- posted in wrong window. Please ignore.

Feb 23, 2011 13:37 PM
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